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Thursday, June 10, 2010

The 12th House: Planning, Vision, Exile, Jail, Expense of time, money and energy, Wyay-Sthan

The 12th house

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The 12th house is named as “wyay” (Wyay in Sanskrit means House of expenditure) sthan in astrology. This is the house that was ascending roughly 2 hours before your birth and has gone ahead now. The Sun is in the 12th house for the folks who are born roughly 2 hrs after the Sun-rise.

This house constitutes the highest spiritual level as it is the 3rd (last) house of the “Moksha-trikon” (Spiritual Triangle) of 4, 8, 12 houses. This house denotes attitude of a person towards spirituality, overall planning of his life and also setting up the next life. This house also shows how a person loses his (physical) power or disposes the fluids from his body. The part of the body shown by this house is the ankles & feet and also the left eye. This is also the house of long journeys and also the immigration (to other country or to the “other world” – the spirit realm!) J

IMP: The planets in the 12th house have some quality which is similar to the planets in the 12th sign i.e. Pisces (Meen).

The 12th house is often derided by astrologers and mostly misunderstood and discarded as a “Paap-sthan” along with the 6th and the 8th house. The importance of this house is explained only in the horoscopes of the Prophets and saints, the greats that plan lives of many.

IN SHORT, this is the house of PLANNING. This is the house that shows natural attitude towards planning and management. The strong 12th house shows HIGH INTELLECT, it shows longer 2nd phalanx of the thumb and often shows top phalanx of the fingers curved upwards (not down like say assembly line workers – in short executioners!)

The 5th house and the 12th house are out of synchronization and they are shad-ashtak (i.e. 6th and 8th from each other). So it is obvious that they represent something totally different. The 5th house shows go-getter attitude, achievement and above all “execution”. This is the teaching straight from the basic natural thing like a horoscope: The Planning and Execution have to coexist. Without planning, execution is meaningless and without execution, planning is well… a bunch of papers or a bunch of GBs.

For example: 12th house Mars (Mangal) is great for Cricket coaches but the 5th house Mangal is what is needed to deliver on the plans (Tendulkar, Gavaskar, Dhoni and most of the great players have 5th house Mars).

The 12th house Mars shows strategy, planning by a Police Commissioner who is coordinating from the control room but it is 6th or 3rd house Mangal of a person like Shahid Ombale who gets hold of a Kasab.

I don’t know Harsh Bhogale but I wouldn’t be surprised if he had 12th house Mangal or a bunch of planets in the 12th house or rather the Sun in the 12th house (8.30 am to 10.30 am birth). The 12th house no doubt shows management inclinations and especially, planning. (He might be Singh lagna 12th house Kirk Surya)

The 12th house planets along with 6th and 8th show karmic burdens. They do show where you need to “pay-off”. Mangal in 12th house shows some karma needed towards brother(s). The Sun shows towards father. The Shukra shows towards the partner and so on as per governance (Karakatva) of the planet. The sign, the nakshatra, the navamansh add to the further detailing of the karmic burden.

The 12th house planets bring some sort of a “know-all” “inertness” or aloofness to overall approach. Nothing surprises 12th house planets as they seem to fit the news immediately in some sort of the big picture they have in their mind. Same goes for 12th sign Pisces planets.

The Linda Goodman’s Pisces Sun Sign chapter is highly recommended to understand the nature of the 12th house planets and the attitude it creates. The 12th house planets will try to get things done with as less trouble, as less work, as less effort as possible. The 12th house planets try to bring in BIG picture everywhere and a simple action of shouting on someone could be linked to some past life event! J

The 12th house planets never try to hurt someone and so are the planets in the Pisces sign. There will be a STRONG spiritual or some MORAL conviction to plan something, maybe it be a plan of some attack on some place. Without moral support and a lot of sympathy, the 12th house planets maybe almost useless.

Some of the biggest names that change the course of the countries the businesses and societies have predominant planets in the 12th house. 12th house give HIGH positions to the person without too much of an effort, because those efforts have been done in the past live(s). They inherit wealth, wisdom or whatever they have from their family. The 12th house planets can make person take a path of the least resistance or swim against the tides completely – it is the CHOICE that is given to the 12th house planets or the Pisces Sign folks. The Pisceans that take this difficult path end up being the greatest minds.

The strong 12th house of a young lady could make her choose an older but well-to-do businessman or a person already at the top of the ladder; the 5th house dominated lady would choose a guy and put him at the top position.

A Corporate without people with strong 12th house will be completely unsuccessful without 5th house folks and a corporate with strong 5th house folks could head to a completely wrong direction without the 12th house folks. The people with strategy/vision are always seen too superficial by the executioners or the people who “deliver”. And people that deliver are seen as “too operational” by the strategist. What they don’t know that they are ZERO without each other!! J

This article is NOT to downplay the obligations the 12th house planets show “to service” to spend time, money and energy to help people. When badly placed it could show jail time too. Mahatma Gandhi had 12th house Surya in Kanya rashi. He preferred jail many times. Bill Clinton 12th house Surya in Leo – was impeached as the President & so on. It does show political or actually “EXILE” from time to time. Even transit planets like Shani and Guru in the 12th house stay for 2.5 and 1 years and do cause a lot of discomfort as they force to learn new things and new stuff and make one alone.

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The #12thhouse of a Horoscope is about planning & management. It is about foresight & more so vision and not just #strategy which comes from the 9th house. .The 5th house shows TACTICS needed implement/execute the strategy or the vision. So 12th house planets give a person very high intellect, ability to ASK VERY good Questions and always question WHY? You could see Mahatma, Bill Clinton, Narendra Modi and many people with 12th house Ravi which shows administrative vision as Surya shows administration. Ravi Shastri although 11th house Mars in MESH -- has 12th house Surya in Taurus/Vrishabh - he was always known as calculative & calm and planning to chase runs etc to K Srikanth's aggression. The 12th house planets show abroad places, immigration and long-term travels if very well placed and if very badly placed they show jail or exile etc. So 12th house planets or even 6 or 8th house planets need to be checked if they are well placed or badly placed! --- So the REAL Question is NOT if 12th house planets show problems -- THE REAL Question is -- "12th house planets are good for WHAT?" 
Mars in 12th is usually commissioners and military strategists! :) or Sports strategists. It shows great planning ability, fingers of hand curled up at the ends showing acute and high intelligence. 12th house mars show ankle issues, left eye issues and also some obligation and duty towards immediate younger siblings. i.e. Mars in the 12th house makes person lethargic at times -- never woudl run to catch a bus and wait for the next bus unless Mars is in Mrig nakshatra in Gemini -- but still 12th Mars means they like Cruisers, bullets etc and not Sports-bike to go fast! 


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  2. HI,
    nice to see your article after a one month summar vacation.. :)
    will u pl tell what is the meaning of strong 12th house? does it mean the planets in the house should be good planets like sun, moon etc? what if there is shani/raahu/ketu in the 12th place?

    1. Yeah -- and good sign and nakshatra and not intense nakshatra or wakri or their owner wakri etc etc.... Guru drushti helps. No opposing drushti from other planets

  3. Hi,sir

    ketu in 12th house and mars in 5th house in karklagna..can you please elobrate

  4. Sadhana:
    Strong 12th house is imp/significant planets in the 12th house. Lagnesh, owners of the Kendra-kon sthan etc.

    Have gotten too busy and finding "context switching" very difficult due to very different kinid of work load which involves both strategic and utterly operation (but highly imp) issues!

  5. Tina:
    Raahu in 6th house and Ketu in 12th house shows good configuration in the sense they are at the place they like! Raahu is hedonist, it is good in the Economic zone and especially 6th house where it shows conquering the enemy, working closely with people from different culture/cast thna yours etc.

    Ketu in 12th shows good spiritual aspects in the later life when the 6th house Raahu's desires are fulfilled.

    Mangal in 5th house in Vrushchik for Kirk lagna is good for sports and also driving etc. But of course nakshatra/navamansh of Mangal are very important. 5th house Mangal usually doesn't allow concentration on one subject but Vrushick raashi Mangal will show some very strong passion in 1 subject at least.

    This Mangal beign owner of 10th hosue is also good for letures, teaching, preaching, short writing, singing etc.

    OF COURSE, commenting on insufficient info -- not advisable and need to be looked at in congtext of complete horoscope.

    I also have owner of the 10th house in the 5th house. Helps with analysis, predictions/forecasting and also preaching etc

  6. Thanks Milind,pleased to read your interesting
    posts.Was wondering, where did u go due to long absence.

  7. Thank you Milind! Nice post after a Sabbatical...
    keep writing[as often as you can!] :)

  8. hii

    i read somewhere that if you have shani in 12th house, you have a tendancy to procrastinate. i guess i hv shani in 12th house, coz i start a lot of activities but later on leave most of them unfinished.

    now, how do you overcome this habit?? or just leave it as it is saying, god, its in my raashi, so however hard i try, i will not change......... i have tried hard many a times but succeeded on a few times.... :)

  9. Welcome back! @Sadhana- actually, so many times, so many people told me this can't be done or she can't do it. But you should not stop trying if you really want it. Giving it to you or not is god's wish. You can be an adamant child and get it for you! :) It has worked for me. I get everything after loads of stress.

  10. Hey Milind,
    thanks for the excellent article on the 12t house.
    I would suggest, you write in a similar way abt each house.. tht would be gr8..

  11. You can be an adamant child and get it for you! :) ------

    yes, you are right deepa. even a mother attends an adamant child first, even though she knows in her mind that her quiet child is more deserving....

    Thanks for this piece of advice. :)

  12. Can you please tell what is the impact if 12th house has "Sun" and "mercury"?

  13. (1) Sadhana:
    That's the point -- the planets have a certain PULL -- BUt your mind and FREE WILL can overcome this pull. And thats the CHOICE given to 12th house planets: Become Bharatratna Babasaheb Amedkar and guide the complete nation and community or take the path of the least resistance like some of the recent leaders. It is the CHOICE...!!!

  14. are yaar sabbatical nahi !!! :) :) Busy like hell!! :)

  15. Deepa:

    You Said it :: As Bhiku Mhatre says: Karna hain toh Karana hain!!!

  16. so now that you are free, pl answer questions on your gmail account. your mailbox must be overflowing.... :)

  17. yeah !! :) Was at 900 when I left and now 1500 !! :(

  18. Was at 900 when I left and now 1500 !! :(

    all the best :) :)
    please pay some attention .. people are waiting for your answers...

  19. What if a person has Mars in 5th and Sun in 12th. Would the person be excellent in terms of planning and execution? Or would Sun in 12th house affect the Sun's powers?

  20. Dean:

    Mangal 5th Sports Sinlings -- execution would be better and siblings good
    Ravi: Planning at workplace better and also not th ebest luck with Goct related matters.. (Even Mahatama had 12th house Ravi -- Destiny to be against the Govt)

  21. Hello,

    Recently I have started reading your blog. I have Shani-Mangal yuti in my patrika. Could you please tell me what does it signify?

  22. Sorry I forgot to mention that it is in the 12th house.

  23. i am having ketu in 12th house and Mercury- Sun n 5th house. is it benefic ir malefic?

  24. to add more ascendant is PISCES-- and ketu is in aquarius

  25. ManaSwita:

    Shani Mangal in 12th house -- Issues with Eyes and ankle..! But need to pcheck rashi nakshatra of these two. In Ashelesha completely different and in Swati completely different!

  26. Krishni:
    Ketu in 12th : 12th is a naturally strong house for Ketu. So is 5th & 10th for the Sun!! These combos are good.

  27. thx for your prompt response.

    my worry is, whether ketu in 12 th house will lead to financial losses, especially if i venture into speculative business?--and what are the effects of upcoming jupiter transit this year?

  28. Hi Milind,

    I have a pretty complex situation here, I have all my kendra lords as well one trikona lord in the 12th house. Mercury, Venus and Jupiter are conjunct in the 12th house with Mercury being the Lagnesha. Please help!

  29. (1) Krishni:
    One planet should not be studied for loss/gain etc. Rahu 6th house and Ketu 12th house are very good for them. 12th house Ketu shows sporitual pursuits of some maternal family person (Grandfather etc). Of course the rashi, drushti and navamansh and overall "situation" of the Ketu reflects how far tose peopple are evolved in spiritual pursuits.

  30. (2) SSS5:Budh and Guru comprise Kendra lord for you and Shukra Shani are Trikon lord. You muist be born in Sept 1979 Kanya lagna??? With only Mars in Gemini and rest in Sinvha including Raahu. Ketu in 6th house ofcourse. This shows July 2007 to Sept 2009 a tough period.. But you know what ALL these planets with GURU shows that these would give a great direction to family, samaj etc. You will be able to hold administrative post where you decide where to spend a tusts's money etc. As 12th house shows wyay (expenditure) with Guru there -- The direction would be good -- Spending on masses, Gurus etc -- You would do VERY well on a BIG Trust. Any issues with disbursemtn/misuse of it woudl have brought to attention from July 2007 to Sept 2009.

  31. @ Milind, Am born on the 5th of July in 1988 at Ahmedabad, Gujarat at 4:40 AM with Mithuna Lagna and Kumbha Rashi, am currently running Shani-Guru Dasha. Additionally, I also have the Chandra-Rahu yuti in the 9th house like you :-).

  32. The above post is by me sss5 only, my name is Shubhang.

  33. Milind,

    Please reply, eagerly awaiting the same!

  34. Milind, I have Mercury, Shukra and Mangal in 12th house. I am Leo rashi and dhanu lagna with Guru, rahu and surya in lagna. Moon in Leo.

  35. I have MOON in 12th house. How it will have overall effect?

  36. Very good article.....and i would like to ask some question since it relates very well to my birth chart.....
    Mine ascendant is scorpion...
    I have moon (Pisces) as Atmakaraka in 5th house and Venus (Amatyakarak)+Saturn(Libra) in 12th house....what will be the signification of this....

  37. very good read as is another good content about 12th house..readers might find useful,

    Hi Milind..plz take a look at the article :)

  38. If 5th and 12th houses have same lord?
    For dhanurlagna it is mars won 5th and 12 th houses.
    If sun and mercury in 12th house and saturn in 5th house how it will be?? i think good planner, but bad executer it seems

  39. I have shani in 12th hose. What does it mean.

  40. I have Shani and Rahu in 12 house pieces, Moon first house aries and Guru in 5th leo, mars, sun,venus in second house in Taurus, and Budh in 3rd house in Mithun . plese let me know effect of rahu shani in 12.

  41. i have lagnesh in 12th house - venus

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  43. i have lagnesh shani (makar lagna) in 12th house and budh and shukra in 5th. although these three are friendly/neutral, they fall in 6/8 relationship in my case. how can that affect me? plz... and also another question: does budh and shukra in taurus make a dharma-karmadhipati yoga in my chart? regards, Rajarshee

  44. Hi I have mars and saturn conjunction in vergo which is 12 th from libra lagna.I dont have children yet.Is there any remedies do i need to follow?

  45. I have Mars in 10th house which is cancer.I have been facing lot of troubles in my career.can u suggest any remedy?my 10th lord moon is in gemini along jupiter in 9th house.Rahu is in 12th house in vergo.saturn is in 11 th house.Venus,sun,mercury are in 3 rd house ie in lagna is libra.

  46. Dear Sir,
    In My 12 house has mangal,ketu,shukra,and surya with kanya rashi?
    what impact in my life and career?

  47. Gr8 article sir as always. If in 12th House u hv Mars with Rahul and shukra. What does it implied fit kumbh rashmi and vrishchik lagna?