Horoscope GURU and “Sat” as in SatGuru, SatBuddhi, SatKarma, SatSang
Well someone who knows Astrology for some time knows that Guru is “karak” (Governor) of santati. The state of the Guru in the horoscope decides the presence of kids in life and their quality of life (along with the owner of the 5th house in the horoscope). Guru is also karak of his Mentors / Guru the jatak will (or not) get in his life. Guru has tremendous magnetism (and hence the name Gurutvakarshan) which even “pulls” the SUN (dasturkhudd!) in its direction. Sanskrit wachan says it all – “Guruwina Gatee nahi” (Gati means ‘speed’ or even ‘distance’). Baiju Banwara Movie song “Man Tarpat Hari Darshan ko aaj” has a line “Guru bin gyan kaha se paawu” ( “How do I get the knowledge without a Guru”).
Guru is also karak of the broader knowledge. Budh might allow you do solve the puzzle, add numbers quickly, prove a theorem etc but GURU will allow you put all these theorems in perspective and their practical significance, interrelation and their coexistence. Guru will impart a “Vishal” buddhi to Budh’s basic intelligence and GUIDE it to acquire WISDOM! Only knowledge does not guarantee wisdom.
BUT apart from all these things there one and THE MOST important thing that Guru is Karak of – “SAT” (Sanskrit) in charachar srishti! “SAT” as in SatPravrutti, SatGuru, SatBuddhi, SatKarma! Guru is the KARAK of “SAT” which does not allow the intelligence of BUDH in statistics to be used for “Teen Patti” but makes the person use it for welfare of humanity. J
Every planet has drushti on the house it occupies and the one 180 degrees from it (opposite) which is called as the 7th drushti or aspect. Guru has two additional aspects: 5th and 9th. Shani has additional 3rd and 10th; Mangal has 4th and 8th – WHY these full drushti – I have thought about it without any result – might be related to their “Gurutva” – weight, speed, nature of their orbit – I have no clue about these like the years of the Vinshottari Mahadasha!! J Rahu are Ketu are said to have 5, 9 drushti which I have NOT observed…Guru, Shani Mangal drushti – I have observed in thousands of horoscopes! They ALWAYS work!!
Powerful Shani shows Mass-support and knowledge of Mass-Mentality but it is Guru’s drushti on Shani that makes person to use that power to direct masses to do good things. Without Guru’s drushti you do not know which way this power will be used. It is the drushti of my horoscope Guru that is making me uplift my 8th house planets by paying off Karmic debts. It is the drushti of Guru on my Mangal which has left my left hand intact despite my valiant attempts to break it! J Guru made ne aware of my limits which I tend to forget when Shani is in Mithun, Virgo and Dhanu (Gochar Shani’s Drishti on my horoscope/natal Mangal!) J This Guru’s drushti has given me at least a medium life span despite so many issues in my horoscope that would have resulted in a VERY short span of life.
No wonder some of the great (or most) minds are born with Guru with their Moon (Mind karak) or 5th, 7th or 9th from their Moon which shows Guru drushti on Moon. Ketu is Karak of spirituality and hence most of the saint are born with Ketu in the 1st house, Many of them who are rated highly with Ketu in Meen rashi in the 1st house with Guru drushti from 5, 7, 9 houses But the BEST of them all with maximum impact have had KETU GURU in the 1st house and I guess GREAT Saints like Gautam Buddh, Paigambar and Christ must have been born with Ketu Guru in 1st house in MEEN RASHI (or Dhanu also but it shows more disciplinary approach like Samarath Ramdas Swami). Ketu in the 1st house shows “calm”/sukoon but with Guru’s drushti that is used for “sat”karma. (MS Dhoni has 1st house Ketu in Guru drushti from 9th house and his Moon is also there with Guru along with Shani. Most of the folks who play with him call him “captain cool” – despite not having knowledge of astrology!)
Gochar Guru or Current Guru Effect: NOT all of us are born with Guru’s drushti on some planets in the horoscope. But whenever gochar Guru (now in Mesh) aspects ANY planet in our horoscope (birth time) – it makes us do good things. Gambhir / Dravid score tons of runs when current Guru is aspecting their Horoscope Mangal. Tendulkar has Horoscope Mangal with Guru but when Guru aspects his horoscope Mangal (and also horoscope Guru) some “beyond wonderful” performances happen! His best performances in world cup and otherwise happened when Guru was in Kirk, Vrishabh, Makar or Kanya! (Very easy to check the records) His worst performance happened when Shani was aspecting his Mangal (World Cup2007 is one example)
Aayla...! Sagle kahi dokya varun gele..Looks like my Guru is missing...:D
ReplyDeleteHi Milind,
ReplyDeleteVery interesting. Thanks for sharing.
Regarding the last paragraph, does this (aspecting by Gochar planate initiating things to happen) happen when any planet aspects another, or only with heavy weights like Guru, Shani (and Ravi?)?
Best Regards,
Shrikant
Reporting a Typo - Mars has 4th and '8th' drushti.
ReplyDeleteGuru increases dharma asa je mhantat. Tya varun ek eikla aahe. Guru drushti is great for 5,7,9 house and planets in it. But Guru does not help the house which it actually is in. What do you have to say about it?
ReplyDeleteThis comment has been removed by the author.
ReplyDeleteSir,I just want to remind you.If you have time PLS see my emails. 1.I have re-sent the Emails on 13th july.2.There was a change in my birth time ,I have corrected the same in my 13th july emails.3.pls see if you have time .4.THANK YOU-PRANAV
ReplyDeleteMilind,
ReplyDeleteAbsolutely great and true,from my own experience.Wonder what would be the effect if Guru aspects[from 6th house-Libra] Budh and Moon in the 10th house[Aquarius].I am told it make one very good in Mathematics/Computers/Accountancy.What is your take on It.
God Bless
Vanessa: Of course -- 4, 8 (10 is a typo). OF COUSRE The house that Guru occupies is THE MOST IMPORTANT ONE -- Rather the house and the TRIKON that Guru occupies has THE MOST importance in a human's life. That's the Trikon and House the person takes MAXIMUM responsibility and shows "SAT" in that Trikon.
ReplyDelete~Milind
Anonymous: YES the Guru from 6th house makes ARTH trikon VERY strong - As Guru in in Air sign and aspects 3 planets in 10th house in Air Sign is shows involvement is "Strategic" (9th Guru to these planets) initiatives at workplace -- It also shows a VERY GOOD INTELLECT as Kumbh rashi and Both Moon/Mercury in Kumbh in Guru drushtoi shows a possibility of various PATENTS at workplace! :) :)
ReplyDeleteRegards,
~Milind
Shrikant:
ReplyDeleteyes Guru and Shani have the MOST Gochar effect but Mangal Budh Shukra Rahu ALL planets have their own effects as per their Karakatva and Bhavesh (owner of various houses) etc.
~Milind
Milind,
ReplyDeleteI think Ketu-Guru yuti is NOT a sainthood karaka. Ketu conjunction to Guru causes apathy to the karakatwa of Guru - so the person is disconnected from the value of 'SAT' ... may lead to immoral deeds, plenty of wisodm/religion hypocrisy. Know someone with this combination in Virgo/11th-from-moon -- with uccha venus-yuti-rahu in Meen/5th. Chandra yuti vakri mangala in Vrischik... a highly sensual female in her 40s..
I agree with this guy
DeleteI have seen this another persons chart
U are seeing Shukra-Rahu yuti,...! :) :) and that too in the 5th house of romance. Guru in practical kanya rashi.
DeleteKetu heightens the spiritual or disconnected etc ability of a planet and makes it more neptunian and ADHIBHAUTIK and hence it is very effective for detachment which is the first step of spirituality... Ketu GUru first house in Meen is Atyuchya Sainthood sort of yoga... mRevati more so and last 3 degrees of Revati further more
Another masterstroke! Not very sure about ketu-Guru yuti and sainthood - I would like to go through it. Thank you.
ReplyDeleteJust noticed that I have JU-yuti-Ketu /Aquarius/3rd house in my D-10... can't really relate to it as regards D-10... am a verry spiritual person, but probably for other combinations in my charts(a combust Venus in D-1 & Venus-yuti-Ketu in D-9, Guru in 12th/Libra, Shatbhisha Rahu-yuti-Moon with Guru drishti, neecha shani in 6th...) ----- above Ketu-Guru-yuti comment was also by me..
ReplyDelete~Anshu
Milind
ReplyDeleteWould effect be same if Guru(9th and 12th lord)-neecha as well as
combust-in 10th house with Venus(2nd and 7th lord) and Sun(5th lord) aspects lagna lord Mars and 4th lord moon and ketu,all located in 6th house.Guru though neecha in Rasi is Ucha in Navamsa.I have seen normally,guru's aspect even if it is neecha ,is good if it is 9th lord.
Would request your views.
GOD BLESS
Anonymous: Sensuous lady etc: She is that way despite the Ketu Guru yuti -- also in Kanya and the owner of the KetuGuru is with hedonist Rahu -- The biggest issues is Moon and Mangal in Vrishchik -- I guess Moon with Mangal and Shukra with Rahu is lot more effecvtoive her BUT KetuGuru WILL have its own effect on the lady in Guru or Ketu antardasha or mahadadsha.
ReplyDelete~Milind
Anonymous:
ReplyDeleteKETU GURU and that too in MEEN IS a SAINT HOOD thing - KETU is about spirituality -- moksha etc and hence it is SWAGRUHI in MEEN Rashi which is last of Moksha trikon and it is uchcha in Guru's rashi of Dhanu (Dharma Trikon).
Ketu in 1st house or and with Moon -- Ketu Neptune 1st house with Moon in Guru aspect is the configuration that a GREAT SOUL would chose to further extend its journey in spiritual path and also benefit human kind from its past karma -- past GATI in this subject.
Rahu is extreme HEDONISM and materialism and Ketu is EXTREME Spirituality pessimism etc.
~Milind
GURU DRISHTI -- Regardless of Guri is neech or uchcha --- it WILL have a positive effect of its drushti on the planets.
ReplyDeleteDHONI: 1st House KETU in MAKAR rashii - Rashi swami Shani in 9th house -- ! And Shani and Ketu BOTH are in GURU Drishti...As Ketu and Shani and Guru are in materialistic signs (Arth Signs) his area of influnce of "calm"ness etc is practical. These planets are in Dharma Trikon and henve he is given the BIG RESPONSIBILITIES.... His bdate of 7th further adds to the innovative and calmness (neptune)
~Milind
Saurabh:
ReplyDeleteThanks! KETU is Spirituality -- ADHYATMIC HEIGHT -- With Guru it takes spirituality to a different heights.
~Milind
Hi Milind!
ReplyDeleteI have ketu in lagna(saggi)with sun, mars and mercury and my guru is in 4 house (pisces) with moon. how do u interpret that?
Regards
H
Hema:
ReplyDeleteThis is a very interesting one and does show a very pure soul and also an effort to get person peace and also very good effect on others...
A person who is also desciplinary etc but Ketu with so many planets and Meen rashi could show lack of action at times...
thanks Milind. You are right about both the good and the 'lack of action at times quality'. If I mail my details, will you do a quick reading of my chart? I know you are very busy but would appreciate your views on my chart.
ReplyDeleteRegards
Hi-My Guru perhaps is in 4th ..will it be trikon??is it nicely placed..but same time there are couple of more planets residing in same house-does it reduce Guru's effect.
ReplyDeleteAlso wanted to know which is better too many planets in one box or scattered in most boxes.Also awaiting your insights on my charts(been almost 2 months)helpful if u may pls revert to this and mail .thank u so much!!!-Pallavi V
Hello
ReplyDeleteI gave birth to a baby girl on 1st August at 4.05 am local time(US EST). Since most of the US observes daylight saving time March to November, should her time of birth be considered 4.05 am or 3.05am? 3.05 makes sense, but want an expert opinion. Thanks!
Milind Sir, I am eagerly awaiting your reply to my email. I sent it to you on the 7th of August. Please help me, I am really feeling extremely trapped and require your assistance. Everything is falling apart and I beg for your help.. please reply.. Thanks
ReplyDeletesondeeep
What about Guru for Tula lagna? Isnt it malefic? Whats the effect of guru+shani in 12th house for tula lagna?
ReplyDeleteAnonymous: Guru -- Malefic and Tula Lagna
ReplyDeleteGuru as owner of 3rd and 12th or 8th house can be analysed a bit differently for life expectancy -- expenditure etc but GURU IS SAT for ALl lagna and all rashis and all people. For Tula lagna Shani in aspect of Guru will show that Shani (masses) is well directed.
In Astro-LOGY -- We are limited by our own imagination, LOGIC and TIME available to analyse a particular planetary formation:
12th House Shani Guru for Tula Lagna:
1. 12th house Shani shows obligation or service or need to provide planning to masses. The navamansh will decide the subject (Vrushabh would mean economic, farming, food?). 5th owner Shani in 12th house shows obligation towards Santati -- 4th owner shows obligation towards Mom. i.e. one OWES to these folks in their life and does not get benefits but PLANS and SPEND MONEY AND TIME for these folks in this life.
2. Guru 12th house -- Shows obligation towards Mentors. Gurus, Schools? Institutions etc -- The Navamansh will show the direction -- Vrushabh food, Dhanu -- Schools, Meen Ashrams etc
3. Guru Shani VERY CLOSE will show delayed but good quality santati. Both in Vargottam navamansh -- possobility of twins?
4. SPEED of both these planets will decide the INTENSITY of the PAST KARMA...lesser the speed worse the past karma...
BUT Guru with Shani will show that the guy will give some good direction to masses and WILL NOT PAY by masses robbing him her etc etc :) I can write 100s of statements based on Shani and Guru position and signs in Divisional charts but that would not serve much benefit --- What we need to understand that 12th house Guru and Shani shows a VERY good planning ability – and need to plan better in this life. The middle phalanx of thumb must be long with 12th house planets and that too like Shani and Guru!!
Regards,
~Milind
A QUICK additional comment to above one:
ReplyDeleteTula/Vrishabh/Makar/Kumbh lagna Guru is "so called" malefic -- it broadly means that if someone wants to be a GURU, a Mentor or at extreme spectrum as "SAINT" they might not chose these lagna rashis! :)
If someone wants to have these Lagna rashis and STILL wants to be an SME or a GURU of some (relevant to these lagna) subject -- Then Guru would be 1, 5, 9 houses and mostly in the 1st house for these lagna rashis! :)
Regards,
~Milind
Sir,I just want to remind you.If you have time PLS see my emails. 1.I have re-sent the Emails on 13th july.2.There was a change in my birth time ,I have corrected the same in my 13th july emails.3.pls see if you have time .4.THANK YOU-PRANAV
ReplyDeleteMilindbhai,
ReplyDeleteWaiting for your reply since from July 1st. Pls spare sometime for us too.
Have sent you email from Rikesh.v@gmail.com.
Pls advise.
Regards,
Rikesh V.
There were tons of spelling mistakes in this article -- Corrected them and made some point clearer and easier to understand. Also included MS Dhoni example to explain Ketu effect and Guru drushti on it (it came in discussions in the comments section)
ReplyDeleteRegards,
~Milind
Dear Sir,
ReplyDeleteMy son has a Guru-Ketu yuti in 1st house in Kanya Lagna. Chandra-Shukra yuti in tula in 2nd house. Ravi-Budha yuti in Sinha in 12 house and shani is in 11th house in 4th. Can u tell me something about him.
ashwinizambre@gmail.com
I hv been told gurus sthan is 12 th, and there is point s for the guru. Based on my kundali I hv 80 points. Born in Ahmedabad at 2:55am and on 8th July 1975. What is insignificance. Plz guide kshah75 on Gmail.
ReplyDeleteOur astrologer Pandit Bhushan Sharma doesn’t solely give the assorted services like kala jadu, love drawback solutions, wedding life solutions, tarot card reading and so on, however additionally offers the data however you'll simply use these services at your home.
ReplyDeleteUniversal Healer
perfectly said !! Guru vina marga nahi !! Jiske kundali mai Chandra ko guru aspect karta hai..first of all it leads to proper actions which leads to proper success..varna akela chandra iss kaliyug mai bhatak jayega..will do only bad things...fir aaya body par...den we can take Mangal means bones and blood and den budh means nerves..den shukra...wen guru aspects above planets ..body will be safe in dat aspects..but main is Chandra as chandra depicts mind !! Mind theek toh sab theek !! 9664196565 !! Shree swami Samartha !!
ReplyDeleteVery interesting read!
ReplyDeleteKetu in first house and Guru in 2nd house, Will it confuse? As Guru will shower good materialistic things but person may wanna blow em away due to spiritualism?
What about Ketu's aspect on Guru, but Guru is not aspecting Ketu? I have been following your blog for many years and would request (like many others) a horoscope analysis, I have o FB account, how can I send my request an other details, please? Thank you.
ReplyDeleteMy Shani is so powerful that my Guru and hanuman both are fail. I dont understand what to do
ReplyDeletesairam brother being follower of satya sai baba.I'm experiencing utmost love.love& love.
ReplyDeleteI have guru with mangal in 12thhouse with meen lagna... Is it good?
ReplyDeleteHi Milind, please do astro analysis of Osho. I don't think he didn't have any Sat powered by Osho. I have read that he also had budhaditya yog which made him so powerful personality along with one of the great orator of our times. BTW I personally do feel Guru power in me. I just can't kill even an ant or mosquito w/o any reason. Can't easily lie or cheat like that. ☺️
ReplyDelete