#AstroMNC: Shani in the 12th
house of a Horoscope
The 8th house Shani Article is here: http://astromnc.blogspot.in/2017/04/shani-in-8th-house-8th-house-saturn.html
The 12th
house is a BIG mystery for all astrologers! It is if well placed shows IIM
level of intellect and an MBA and ability of being an architect like say Ravi
Shastri or Lalit Modi who devised IPL. Ravi Shastri has ensured cricketers like
Sachin T weren’t taken for a ride and has ensured good advertising deals for
them thru his company(?)”. Also, he was known for cold calculations and very
good planning to chase or shape the innings – highly calculative and always
planning and getting strategy correct. This all reflected in his 12th
house Surya in Vrishabh (27th May Birth). (Well, Mithun Lagna and
MESH Mangal in the 11th house showed his sports inclination along
with the 27th date ruled by Mangal.) At the same time a badly placed 12th
house results in some jail time also or political exile! The 12th
house also shows abroad and immigration and kaarmic links from the past birth
which are 12 hours away from your native place. Even transit planets in the 12th
house shows some expense or investments that are much needed. Sort of an obligation
which has been avoided to pay back! 12th transit Shani to moon in
Sadesati start and the 12th Guru to moon also created a void in
life. So yes – these planets do have some obligations attached to them whether
in the natal horoscope or transit chart! (KP method gives a good method to
analyze multiple planets in any house). If any house is about ARCHITECTURE / Vision
/ Planning / /Blueprinting it is the 12th house. The 12th
house is also about sleeping & dreams and obviously biggest visions are
thru dreams! :) It is not a coincidence. The whole like and each &
everything is mapped to the 12 houses – 360 degrees of the zodiac and all the
planets! The 12th house is also called wrongly as ShayyaSukh (sex). It is partially true: The 7th
house shows the quality and nature of the partner, the 8th house
shows the physical ability to perform whereas, the 12th house shows
the expense one would do for that! Of course, it is one of the 100 things that the
12th house shows for a chart and not the only things! ;) Don’t go digging your charts! :) AstroMNC
I have a detailed article
on the 12th house here: http://astromnc.blogspot.in/2010/06/12th-house.html
So, you get an idea
that most astrologers ate stumped by the 12th house planets and
related analysis. When SHANI is in the 12th house of a natal chart –
it becomes a nightmare for an astrologer to analyze! :) Like any house one
needs to check the planets in the house, drushti/aspects on that house, the owner
of that house where it is in which rashi and house and nakshatra, the aspects
on that planet! Also, Nakshatra-Swami of the planets and their houses &
aspects on them. Usually a RAASHI or a House shows WHAT and the Nakshatra &
Nakshatra Swami shows HOW (broadly speaking).
AstroMNC
So, what happens when Shani is in the 12th house?
Here is some analysis for this powerful yoga:
Broadly speaking: Shani in the 12th
house shows some obligations towards the masses, employees, consumers, large
group of people and people at the bottom of pyramid. It shows you have ignored
these people in the past life. Your soul wants to “design” some products or
services for these people. The rashi and nakshatra of Shani shows the area /
subject / field of this design and architecture whereas the nakshatra shows
also further segregation but also how this person would go about it.
As Shani is older people – obviously,
some obligation with the older people is shown.
This Shani shows expense of time,
money and energy on a group of people. One has an obligation to help these
people and hence needs to “spend” person stuff for that.
The travels one MUST do and not that
they love or like to do! The 12th is a house of travel to far
places. Shani mandates the travels and makes one travel for necessary stuff.
As Shani has drushti on the 9th
house which is also a house of travel --- this is further underscores that
without this travel it is difficult to pay off karmic burden or obligation of
this chart!
a. If Mangal is in the 9th house (more
problems) or the 3rd house then it shows accidents or theft possibilities in travel
– need to take care of luggage & electronic stuff.
b. If it is Surya then fights with
conductor driver and pilot and so on! :) Tussle with authorities in travel is
seen.
c.
If
Shukra or Moon involved then some lady trouble in the travel is quite likely.
d. Raahu or Ketu in the 9th /3rd house
can throw some mysterious issues which oftentimes can’t be explained. They can only
be related to grandparents’ life experience.
Shani drushti on the 6th
house shows chronic and long term health issues. The owner of the 6th
house if also in Shani drushti then the intensity of the matter is higher and
lot earlier in life.
e. If Mangal or Surya are in 6th
house or owner of the 6th house AND is in Shani drushti then there
is some violence, dramatic, accident or surgery or some maaramaari etc involved
in it.
f.
If
it is Shukra then progeny/reprod organs and relationships are under scanner.
g. If it is Moon then Mother related obligations
and deceases spread thru water could be seen.
h. If it is Rahu or Ketu with or
opposite Shani – then there is a hereditary deceases angle associated with it.
Shani k=Ketu caused cancerous stuff whereas Shani-Rahu caused quite a bit of
violent stuff.
i.
Shani
Ketu shows obligation to maternal people and also people who are evolved and
socially higher placed and higher social & economic status.
ii.
Shani
Rahu == Have written a detail article – obligation to paternal family but also
people of different caste culture and language and lower rung in society than
yours!
When this Shani is Raashi-Swami or
Lagna-Rashi Swami – it is damn important for health and career and overall success!
It shows need to show vision, architecting or blue-printing or simply planning /
management services to be provided to people who are shown by the rashi or
nakshatra! For example
a. Shani in Dhanu in the 12th house would
be providing services to education, sports, gym, education institutes
b. Shani in Makar in the 12th house –
Financial institutes, manufacturing units, slow running organizations AstroMNC
c.
Shani
in Leo – Services to Govt or HUGE organizations – conglomerates like Tata GE
etc
d. Shani in Vrishabh or Kirk – Farmers,
Farming and related research, Finance, Jewelry
e. Shani in Tula – Services to
politicians, artists and so on.
The above things are applicable even
if Shani is not Chandra-Rashi or Lagna-Rashi Swami but probability increased
when it is Swami or some planets in the chart or there are some planets in the
Makar or Kumbh rashi in the chart!
The 12th house is about
ankle & feet and hence need to always use high quality of shoes etc and
always protect them with safety etc. The 12th house is also about
the left eye. Shani drushti on the 2nd house – this affects eyes and
teeth! More so the right eye. It also
means that the family wealth has some issues and some problems were created by
the family in the past times before or even after your birth (mostly before).
So, investments until the age of 30 should be long term without HASTE or
Greed!!! Else some real losses could happen! Eyes teeth and neck could have
issues if Raahu in 2nd or Mangal in 2nd or Drushti Of
Mangal on the 2nd house.
SHANI also shows obligation to the
houses it owns! And this is MORE so when there are some planets in Makar or
Kumbh. Then you need to check Karakatva of those planets and the houses those
planets own. More so the houses Shani itself owns and Karakatva of planets and
NOT so much the houses those planets owns further – unless Shani also has drushti
on those houses.
SHANI is nishkaam karmayogi – it is your own conscious and subconscious which results in
the chart you get – it is your choice to have this chart. Shani is just the
auditor and channel so that you pay back your obligations in this life! AstroMNC
A VERY WELL-PLACED Shani in a very
good Rashi say Vrishabh in Rohini or Tula in Swati or say Makar in Shravan ---
and say in Guru drushti and without any Rahu Ketu or Mangal influence shows
huge income by providing services to people abroad. It still shows providing services
and not occupying positions of political power etc like 1st Shani –
but it does show huge huge incomes which are disproportionate or people could call
it easy money. But again, this starts more so after age of 30 and usually Shani
is well placed from Moon for this to happen.
As
the 12th house is also about getting rid of things from the body (sweat & other
things), it could show slower activity and issues with that. So some 5Km walk
per day and gym is necessary for this placement. Lack of physical activity
could be caused by the 12th house Shani which consciously needs to be worked
upon.
The BEST REMEDY for
Shani is positive Karma – understand which area of life, which people, which
field and relatives & friends or cousins or spouse or partners or whatever is
indicated by the chart. START EARLY in life to pay back the karma so your own
soul/brain can fill the gaps in your own DNA and cures your issues!! Your kids’
charts acutely show your obligations which are further unpaid despite Shani
consistently and continuously giving you opportunity to pay them back. By the age
of 30 usually SHANI has made sure you pay back all obligations to a large
extent and hence the 12th Shani life is much better after age of
30/32. Until then it is an investment of karma – either by good deeds, delays
or by sufferings. The intensity of the past karma would decide which one it is
BUT GOOD DEEDS and Good Karma Trumps everything!! AstroMNC
There are ayurvedic
& homeopathy remedies that work magic for such 8th and 12th
house planets but that needs careful deliberations and my study is in the initial
stages. Need to start some collaborations and tie ups for this one! :)
Alternate medication or alternate healing methods really work well for 12th
house planets and Shani is no exception! AstroMNC
what about shani in 2nd house??
ReplyDelete29th August 1949 8 59 Am place Bisauli. Uttar Pradesh . My father has shani and surya in 12 th house. I second the feet part as they are sensitive for him. He is travelling a lot and has opened school in his hometown for lower class people. At this age is there something he can focus which helps him pay karmic debt
ReplyDelete29th August 1949 8 59 Am place Bisauli. Uttar Pradesh . My father has shani and surya in 12 th house. I second the feet part as they are sensitive for him. He is travelling a lot and has opened school in his hometown for lower class people. At this age is there something he can focus which helps him pay karmic debt
ReplyDeleteVery nice information about 12th House Shani Milind Sir :)
ReplyDeleteany prediction on 12th house saturn with mars???
ReplyDeleteIt is of some issues accident and injury to left eye ankle or feet-- one of the mama or mousi issues. Shows some obligations to siblings and cousins. Possible miscarriage to mom after your birth in the next pregnancy -- some land mishandled in the past brith
DeleteWould really love to read your study about shani in 12th house with moon someday..
ReplyDeleteYou can combine this article with Shani drushti on moon article posted just a few days back
DeleteIt is of some issues accident and injury to left eye ankle or feet-- one of the mama or mousi issues. Shows some obligations to siblings and cousins. Possible miscarriage to mom after your birth in the next pregnancy -- some land mishandled in the past brith
ReplyDeleteMilind...my 16 year old athlete,is in a cast for his foot...messaged you his details on FB. Please let me know...
ReplyDeleteMilind ... I need urgent consultation. My husband needs career direction or he might go crazy ... its been tough 7 years... sade sati thula rashi....
ReplyDeleteMilind Guruji My Son has Mars & Saturn in 12 th house in Cancer rashi. His moon rashi is Kanya. He has Guru in Tula rashi. His Asc is Leo. His DOB 07/06/2012. Please suggest remedies.
ReplyDeleteDear Milind Sir,
ReplyDeleteKindly post details when shani is in 11th house of a horoscope
My kundli having sani in 1st kumbh sun 2nd meen budh 5th ketu 7th guru 11th rahu and 12th Makar(SANI, SUKRA, MANGAL and chandra) so question is what should I do or not for making money
ReplyDeleteHello milind....My kundli having 12 th house Saturn in Tula...my birth chart is of vrishchik lagna and my moon sign is Kumbh raasi...pls advise me..
ReplyDeleteHello milind....My kundli having 12 th house Saturn in Tula...my birth chart is of vrishchik lagna and my moon sign is Kumbh raasi...pls advise me..
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ReplyDeleteShani is in 12th house as per lagna, however, as per rashi, it is in 7th house. I read a point which stated Shani in Dhanu for education, however, I think mine is in Libra which is finance, farming etc. I wish to get into finance and Education is not something excites me. So I think maybe slowly, might get into finance. But an excellent analysis, Milind. Have been fan of your blog for past 7 years.
ReplyDeleteSaturm sun mars and Jupiter combination in 12th house of aries sign and budh shukr in 11th meen sign.. Please explain
ReplyDeleteDOB 08.09.1975, 6:10 am, shajapur.
ReplyDeletePlease suggest for career. Shani mahadasha running.
Nice article Milind. Would you pls share effects of Shani Ketu in Leo in 12th sign.
ReplyDeleteI have the worst horoscope ever. Mesha Rasi. Mithun Lagna. 10th house is pisces if counted from lagna or 12th house from moon. Planets are sun saturn rahu in 10th house. Mercury and venus in 9th house in aquarius. Jupiter in leo. Mars and moon in aries. Worst career ever
ReplyDeleteThanks for sharing this content, I really appreciate your hard work and intelligence which is clearly seen through your content.
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