Shani in the 5th house of a Horoscope
“The Lawyer!”
SHANI: SATURN, Shanai, Shanai – slowly slowly,
Sincere, Serious, Hard-Work, Perseverance, covertly ambitions, Auditor, Police,
Relentless delivery of good/bad karma, Channel for karma delivery just like ISO
or CMMI Auditors or Financial Auditors, Poor People, Masses, Workers, Large
group of Consumers, Cold Calculations,
Devoid of emotions, numbers driven approach
The 5th house: Intelligence, Buddhi,
Kids (Santati), Execution Excellence, Overall Success, Duties, Designations
Go-Getter attitude, Inspirations and Extrovert behavior
A
highly dutiful planet like Shani in the Dharma-Trikon house (1-5-9) of the 5th
obviously shows sincere and serious approach. It is also the house of inspiration
and speculation which of course is discouraged by Shani. So, it is difficult to
find artists born with the 5th house of Shani. As Shani is about
auditing and policing, this Shani is wonderful for police & lawyer professions
and also political affiliations as that’s the field that most frequently needs
law-makers. This Shani gives blessings or a curse of doubting anything & everything!
:) “Samshayee Vritti” is the name of the game for this Shani. Their doubt about
anything are legendary! An audit performed by 5th Shani person can
make some weak hearted people literally cry! As Shani doesn’t like any kind of
a hurry or extrovert behavior, this house is not the most natural for Shani.
The 5th house is about education but not like degrees and academic
excellence or collecting great exam scores. It is about applied knowledge so,
Shani in the 5th is at loss in the early ages or primary education
without a sense of purpose. Maybe, some 2 / 3 subjects they develop interest
in. It is sometimes a struggle to learn
a subject without seeing it in practice.
This
Shani has drushti on the 7th house of marriage and relationships or
partnerships. Obviously, it shows or rather recommended late marriage compared
to the family history. Early marriage can result in some chaos and bitter experience.
Usually for a girl is suggested to be 26 27 and for a guy say 30. Shani drushti
in addition on Shukra and or L7 can further show delays. Very well placed Shukra
or L7 and in Mangal drushti can result in a marriage and issues after marriage
as Shani 5th alone is not able to stop the marriage! :) Astrologers also
need to try! :) The immediate next
effect of delayed marriage is major effect of 5th Shani which is on
the kids. Santati / Kids are almost by rule are lesser and also delayed. Now is
the age of lesser # of kids anyways but with Shani 5th it is much
lesser than family norms (# of kids) and they are later in life after age of
30/32. Shani drushti on Guru or L5 only adds to the delay. Early kids forced
etc could result in some major issues. This Shani is about chronic or long-term
illness to kids and especially the first one if happens before say 29/30. Only
when Rahu or Mangal are involved in 5 11 or Mangal drushti on Shani then a
miscarriage or a tough pregnancy is seen. Again, Shani is about delayed but not
denied.
Shani drushti
on the 2nd house of family and wealth & also 11th
house of gains shows delays with accumulating large wealth and better luck is
seen after the age of 30. It makes one do hard-work and efforts before huge
wealth is sent their way. Delayed but not denied. It is advised NOT to go for ambitious
day-trading or greedy moves in share market etc (gambling) with this Shani.
Else, some huge losses could be seen. It is recommended to go for long-term
investments.
As the
5th house of the horoscope shows heart / spine, these things need
some strengthening by yogasan and pranamyam and so on. This is more so if Shani
also has drushti on Surya and or L5. Shani in Singh brings some certainly to
this. Shani in Ketu’s nakshatra shows heart history in maternal family whereas
in Rahu’s nakshatra it could show it to the paternal elders.
One of
the issues with this Shani is that not just 30 but also the age of 35th
it shows again some tussle with spouse and relationships. So it could be
continued struggle post 3 for some time but with patience and maturity it would
mean only physically staying away from the spouse for a few weeks or months at
the age of 35th plus minus 1 and not extreme fights etc. Shukra or
L7 in the 7th house is particularly chaotic with this Shani. It DOES
get into relationships earlier than 30 or lot earlier but then gets in to some
tussle. The mantra of “delay” should not be forgotten.
It is
highly unlikely if not impossible to find a sportsperson with this Shani :)
Lawyers YES – a lot! Police – of course yes and politicians too! Financial
auditors (CA: Chartered Accountants etc) or auditors of any subject. Critiques
- -movie critiques or sarcastic writing (When Budh with Shani). Any profession that
needs attention to detail belongs to this Shani.
Remedies:
(1)
Help marriage bureaus – donate money and efforts etc, Help
people get and stay married, participate ACTIVELY in friend and relatives’
marriages
(2)
Donate to Orphanages, Visit the, and spend time with less privileged
kids.
(3) Tuition etc in childhood help as scores in exams (marks” arfe
very imp for Indian parents! :) Actual useful knowledge is imp for this kid!
Important Configurations:
[A]
These things below will be much lesser in intensity if Shani degree is not
close to Ascendant degree. Or Shani is aspected by Guru, Shani is NOT aspected
by Mars or with Raahu or Ketu. Or say Shani is not wakri or worse stambhi which
gets ignored. Shani has good speed & is not with Surya (Astangat). Shani is
Raajyogkarak of friendly with Lagna-Rashi or Chandra-Rashi. The owner of
Shani’s rashi “well-placed” and or in Guru drushti.
[B] The
following things will be lot worse if Shani is with Mangal or has Mangal
drushti. No Guru drushti, Wakri Shani is with Rahu or Ketu or Surya. If it has
very less speed. Owner of Shani is wakri or is 6 8 12 from Shani or in Mangal
or even Shani’s drushti! (Recursion!) :)
The worse or better the karma the more & more acute planetary
formations in a natal chart.
thanks for very good article .
ReplyDeleteOne request can you put similar article on shani in 9th house for tula lagna
Sure Will do....
DeleteWhat abt Shani in 5th house Tula 29.3 deg for gemini ascendant?
ReplyDeleteVery nice article, but my doubt is if Shani with rahu ketu guru in 5th house, then all the above points are not valid or lesser ....
ReplyDeleteWhat happens if Saturn is in 5th house from ascendant but debilitated?
ReplyDeleteWould be really great if you could please enlighten us about 8th House (from ascendant) debilitated Shani.
ReplyDeleteThere is a separate article about the 8th Shani -- please search the blog
DeleteThanks for reply. I have read that very informative article about 8th house. I am a novice but people say debilitation that too in 8th house is very interesting study. And your articles are very much related to real experiences of life and intuitive too at the same time.
DeleteI have 8th house debilitated Saturn but always found Saturn to be very kind and giving on me.
Yeah L2 in 8th house is a separate topic which shows easy income and good money prize money and so on.
DeleteMy wife shani in 5th house in Libra , swati nakshatra pad 3 and she is creative with early marriage at 24. Daughter at 25
ReplyDeleteA very good article,Mlind.God Bless
ReplyDeletetula lagna. saturn in 5th house aquarious. venus in ascendent with rahu. sun, jupiter & mercury in 2nd house scorpio. please give some details about this saturn.
ReplyDeleteMilindji,
ReplyDeleteWhat about Sa, Ra & Jupiter in 5th house with Taurus Ascendant. Shatabhisha Kumbha.
Pranaam.
Dear Mr.milind, you are right. My lagna in thula and sani is my 5th house. I am lawyer.most of the things what you have written are true.
ReplyDeleteNice explanation, I have Shani in 5th house along with guru
ReplyDeleteMy son has vakri shani in 5th house in yuva avastha with rahu in vriddh avastha.hea gemini ascendant. What
ReplyDeletewll b it's effect